Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

02/16/2022 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:34:29 PM Start
03:35:20 PM SB121
05:06:55 PM Adjourn
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        SB 121-PFAS USE & REMEDIATION; FIRE/WATER SAFETY                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:35:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  announced  the consideration  of SENATE BILL  NO. 121                                                              
"An Act  relating  to pollutants;  relating to  perfluoroalkyl and                                                              
polyfluoroalkyl   substances;  relating  to   the  duties  of  the                                                              
Department    of   Environmental    Conservation;    relating   to                                                              
firefighting  substances;   relating  to  thermal  remediation  of                                                              
perfluoroalkyl  and polyfluoroalkyl  substance  contamination; and                                                              
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:36:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR JESSE  KIEHL, speaking as  sponsor, stated  that SB 121 is                                                              
the first step  in dealing with the problem  of perfluoroalkyl and                                                              
polyfluoroalkyl substances  (PFAS) in Alaska.  PFAS are a class of                                                              
chemicals that  includes thousands  of chemicals in  the class. SB
121  deals  with  the  chemicals  that  have  the  best  and  most                                                              
thorough  science  showing the  chemicals  are a  threat  to one's                                                              
health. The  seven chemicals  listed in  the bill have  any number                                                              
of adverse  health effects and  can affect any  number of systems.                                                              
The  chemicals  are  closely  associated  with  low birth  weight,                                                              
thyroid  disease,  cancer, etc.  The  chemicals are  present  in a                                                              
number of  items, but  SB 121 is  particularly concerned  with the                                                              
presence  of PFAS in  Alaskans' drinking  water. This  happens, by                                                              
and  large,  using firefighting  foams  with  PFAS chemicals.  One                                                              
reason PFAS  chemicals are  great for  fighting fires  is that the                                                              
compounds  do not  break  down when  sprayed  in the  environment.                                                              
Heat,  light, and  all  kinds of  elements that  would  break down                                                              
most  items,  don't  affect PFAS  chemicals.  Unfortunately,  that                                                              
means the chemicals  stick around. Firefighting  foam is tested at                                                              
airports  which  the  federal  government  has  required for  many                                                              
years.  The chemicals  get into  the water  supply and  make their                                                              
way down  gradient  when the  chemicals run  off the  runway. PFAS                                                              
chemicals have now polluted many Alaskan wells.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL   stated  that   this  bill  picks   up  where  the                                                              
Department of  Environmental Conservation  (DEC) left  off. At the                                                              
beginning of 2019,  the department had a  process underway to list                                                              
60  PFAS chemicals;  that process  has  ground to  a halt.  SB 121                                                              
picks  up the  work  based  on a  tremendous  review  of available                                                              
scientific literature  from Michigan. It  lists seven chemicals at                                                              
levels  that  are  known to  be  toxic  to  human  health.  As the                                                              
science has gone  on since then, more chemicals  are coming to the                                                              
attention  of medical science.  There is  more cause  for concern.                                                              
This  bill sets  a baseline;  nothing in  it stops  the department                                                              
from  establishing  protective  standards  as  more  data  becomes                                                              
available about PFAS chemicals.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  said,  most  importantly,  SB 121  keeps  Alaska's                                                              
existing   structure  from  cleaning   up  toxic   chemicals.  The                                                              
polluter  pays; this  is the  baseline  applied to  everything. SB
121  will  not  change   that  the  polluter  is  responsible  for                                                              
cleanup.  The  bill  provides  blood  tests  to  first  responders                                                              
exposed to PFAS  or people who have PFAS  polluted drinking water,                                                              
so exposed individuals  have a chance to  know the chemical levels                                                              
in their blood.  Importantly, in most cases,  it ends any spraying                                                              
of PFAS  firefighting foams. The  only exceptions are  the oil and                                                              
gas  industry and  the  United States  military,  which  the state                                                              
does not  regulate. The United  States military is  in the process                                                              
of  moving away  from  PFAS foams.  Specific  to the  oil  and gas                                                              
industry, the  bill puts the  authority in the hands  of the state                                                              
fire  marshal  because of  the  tremendous  fire risks  associated                                                              
with  tanker terminals  or  pump stations.  As  soon as  there are                                                              
non-PFAS-containing   foams  that   function  as   well  as  PFAS-                                                              
containing  foams,  the   fire  marshal  can  begin  a  regulation                                                              
process with  full public notice and involvement  to require those                                                              
installations to switch over.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL stated that  it is  worth bringing  the committee's                                                              
attention  to a few  other small  provisions  in SB 121.  The bill                                                              
proposes a  take-back provision,  allowing the state  to take back                                                              
up to  25 gallons per  year. Think  about the state's  very small,                                                              
rural fire departments  and volunteer departments  in almost every                                                              
case.  The state has  provided  some basic  firefighting equipment                                                              
to them, for  instance, code red carts holding  a canister of PFAS                                                              
firefighting  foam in case  it is  needed to  fight a  fire at the                                                              
tank   farm.  It   is   important   that  small,   under-resourced                                                              
departments  are not  responsible  for  the cost  of  disposing of                                                              
hazardous materials; the state would take those back.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  said that  SB 121  provides for a  heightened level                                                              
of scrutiny  in the  course of cleaning  up PFAS  contamination. A                                                              
form of  cleanup uses thermal  remediation. The bill  does not ban                                                              
this, but  SB 121 would  ensure a new  band of  downwinders is not                                                              
established by  driving PFAS chemicals  into the air  only to rain                                                              
down on the next community.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL  stated that  PFAS  is  here. It  is  all  over the                                                              
place. A  federal requirement  for airports was  PFAS foam testing                                                              
in  the environment,  which has  now seeped  into  drinking water.                                                              
There  are costs; there  will be  costs. SB  121 takes  a balanced                                                              
approach  to  stop  future  contamination.  The  bill  would  also                                                              
ensure those  with PFAS  poisoned drinking  water get  a source of                                                              
clean drinking water.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:43:30 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS  asked who  the  polluters  were responsible  for                                                              
paying.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  answered that  the vast  majority of  the time, the                                                              
sprayer   was  the   Department  of   Transportation   and  Public                                                              
Facilities  (DOTPF),  Airport   Section.  Federal  rules  required                                                              
testing of  PFAS foams in  the environment on  airport runways. He                                                              
did not want  to blame the department because  it was required. He                                                              
said  that it  is  a little  painful,  but that  is  the structure                                                              
under state law.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Foam was  also used in  the environment at  pipeline pump stations                                                              
to verify  firefighting equipment  worked, the  federal government                                                              
generally  required  this.  Firefighters  also  used  foam  in the                                                              
environment   to  extinguish   actual  fires.  SB   121  addresses                                                              
firefighter liability,  protecting firefighters  who had no choice                                                              
but to use  these foams. There  are a few others,  but this is the                                                              
bulk of it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS  asked whether  PFAS has  been replaced  by a more                                                              
effective substance that does not contaminate drinking water.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  answered that a list of  alternatives containing no                                                              
PFAS  chemicals  is  rapidly   developing.  Some  of  the  world's                                                              
largest  airports  use no  PFAS  chemicals.  For instance,  London                                                              
Heathrow does not use PFAS in its firefighting foams.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:45:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR VON IMHOF  asked what the alternatives  to PFAS foams are.                                                              
She asked whether  the current code red  containers the state uses                                                              
will need to  be replaced by new equipment  to use the alternative                                                              
foams.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL   answered  that   the  technology   is  developing                                                              
rapidly.   A  huge   amount   of  research   and   development  is                                                              
transpiring.  Airports,  oil  and gas  facilities,  and  a  lot of                                                              
other places  need firefighting foam. The  private sector is doing                                                              
all  it  can to  replace  PFAS  foams.  Facility  by facility  and                                                              
product by  product, whether  they can use existing  hardware with                                                              
new foams will depend.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:46:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  VON IMHOF  inquired  about  a transition  plan  from PFAS                                                              
foam  to   clean  foam,   the  timeframe,   cost,  and   how  many                                                              
organizations are currently using clean foam.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  stated that this transition  has begun all over the                                                              
world.  The  United  States  Congress  has forbidden  the  Federal                                                              
Aviation  Administration  (FAA)  from  requiring  PFAS  foams  any                                                              
longer.  He expressed his  understanding  that the FAA  has missed                                                              
its   Congressional   deadline    to   change   its   regulations.                                                              
Replacements  foams  are  available  and  in  use  in  many,  many                                                              
places.  He will  send  additional  details to  the  committee. He                                                              
said  that  today's  speakers could  speak  to  new  foams  on the                                                              
market.  A number  of fire  departments  have already  gotten away                                                              
from PFAS foams.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:48:23 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  what  is being  done  to help  communities                                                              
like  Yakutat  and  how  long  it  will take  for  groundwater  to                                                              
normalize.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL  stated that this  bill sets standards  for drinking                                                              
water, either  by cleaning up  a PFAS spill to  a safe consumption                                                              
level  or  brought  in  from  another  source.  By  and large,  in                                                              
Alaska,  the  state supplies  water  from  another  source.  A few                                                              
places  have  installed expensive  filters,  which  are  costly to                                                              
install and  maintain. DOTPF, Airport Section,  has supplied water                                                              
trucks  in a  few  places.  In the  Interior,  federal  funds have                                                              
extended  municipal  water  lines  long distances  that  otherwise                                                              
would  not have made  sense to  expand so  that people  could have                                                              
clean drinking water.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SB  121  does not  set  a  cleanup  standard.  The technology  for                                                              
cleaning up  PFAS is nascent;  it is in its  beginnings. This bill                                                              
proposes to  prevent new PFAS discharges  and establish a standard                                                              
that, if unmet, no one would have to drink the water.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS  sought  confirmation  that  SB  121 proposes  to                                                              
prevent  further   PFAS  discharges,  and   it  does  not  propose                                                              
cleaning  up  discharges.  The  bill  also proposes  the  polluter                                                              
provide drinking  water to communities  whose water  fails to meet                                                              
a safety standard for consumption.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL answered that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:50:48 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REVAK  asked Senator Kiehl to walk  through an abbreviated                                                              
sectional analysis of the bill.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:51:04 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHY  SCHLINGHEYDE,  Staff,  Senator  Jesse  Kiehl, Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  presented  the following  sectional                                                              
analysis for SB 121:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
[Original Punctuation Provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                 SB 121: PFAS in Drinking Water                                                                               
                        Sectional ver. A                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
       Sec. 1 of the bill creates five new sections in AS                                                                     
     46.03:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          Sec. 46.03.340: Standards for Clean Drinking                                                                        
          Water & Blood Testing                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.340(a): Directs  the Department of                                                                 
               Environmental   Conservation   to   make  sure                                                                   
               drinking  water  near PFAS  spills  is tested.                                                                   
               Requires  the department  to make  sure anyone                                                                   
               with  contaminated  drinking water  gets clean                                                                   
               drinking  water  and  a  voluntary blood  test                                                                   
               for PFAS levels.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.340(b): Sets  health-based maximum                                                                 
               levels  of  contamination  in  drinking  water                                                                   
               for  seven PFAS chemicals  and maintains DEC's                                                                   
               authority to set more protective thresholds.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.340(c): Requires DEC  to make sure                                                                 
               a  responder  exposed  to  PFAS  contamination                                                                   
               gets a voluntary blood test for PFAS levels.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          Sec. 46.03.345: Who is responsible for providing                                                                    
          drinking water and blood testing?                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.345(a): Clarifies the  causer of a                                                                 
               fire  is liable  for providing  drinking water                                                                   
               and  blood testing if PFAS-containing  foam is                                                                   
               used  to fight the fire.  Creates an exemption                                                                   
               for   residential  fires   and  non-commercial                                                                   
               motor vehicle fires.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.345(b): A  fire department  is not                                                                 
               liable   for  providing  drinking   water  and                                                                   
               blood  testing, or site clean-up  if they used                                                                   
               PFAS-containing  foam  to fight  a  fire. This                                                                   
               section   maintains  existing   liability  for                                                                   
               fire  fighters  if  they  use  PFAS-containing                                                                   
               foam for training or testing.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.   46.03.345(c):   Clarifies   this   bill                                                                 
               doesn't    change   a    responsible   party's                                                                   
               liability    described   elsewhere    in   DEC                                                                   
               statutes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
               Sec.  46.03.345(d):  Defines  "motor  vehicle"                                                                 
               and  "residential  building"  for purposes  of                                                                   
               this section.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 46.03.350: Who can still use PFAS containing                                                                  
           foams?                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  46.03.350(a):  The oil  &  gas industry                                                                 
                may  continue  using  PFAS  containing  foams                                                                   
                until  an  alternative  is  approved  through                                                                   
                regulation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  46.03.350(b):   The  fire  marshal  can                                                                 
                determine  there  is  a  safe  and  effective                                                                   
                PFAS-free foam for  fighting large oil or gas                                                                   
                fires only  if the  alternate foam  is listed                                                                   
                by  an  organization   in  OSHA's  Nationally                                                                   
                Recognized  Testing  Laboratory Program.  The                                                                   
                fire  marshal must  require  the new  foam by                                                                   
                regulation, with a stated effective date.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  46.03.350(c): DEC  must  take up  to 25                                                                 
                gallons    per   year    of   PFAS-containing                                                                   
                firefighting    foam   from    Alaskans   for                                                                   
                disposal.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                Sec.  46.03.350(d):   When  federal   law  no                                                                 
                longer requires firefighting  foams with PFAS                                                                   
                in  them at  airports,  everyone  outside the                                                                   
                oil  & gas  industry  must  stop using  PFAS-                                                                   
                containing   foams,    unless   federal   law                                                                   
                preempts Alaska law.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        Sec. 46.03.355: Requires a facility treating PFAS                                                                     
        through thermal remediation to get a Clean Air Act                                                                      
        Title V permit.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
        Sec. 46.03.359: Lists the PFAS compounds covered by                                                                   
        this bill and maintains DEC's authority to list                                                                         
        more.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 2 of the bill adds applicability provisions:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 2(a): A responder exposed to PFAS on or                                                                       
           after Jan. 1, 2019 is eligible for a voluntary                                                                       
           blood test.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
           Sec.  2(b):  The  requirements  to  test  drinking                                                                 
           water  and  provide  clean  drinking  water and  a                                                                   
           voluntary blood  test applies  to past  and future                                                                   
           PFAS contamination.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Secs. 3-6 of the bill add effective dates:                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 3: DEC can adopt regulations before the                                                                       
           effective date of the bill, so long as they do                                                                       
           not go into effect before the bill.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 4: Effective date of Oct. 4, 2021 for the                                                                     
           ban on PFAS-containing foam.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 5: Immediate effective date for the                                                                           
           applicability and transition language in Sec. 2 &                                                                    
           3.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
           Sec. 6: The rest of the bill takes effect Jan. 2,                                                                  
           2022.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:53:18 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  REVAK  stated  that   public  testimony  would  follow  Dr.                                                              
Birnbaum's  PFAS  presentation. He  reminded  testifiers  to limit                                                              
remarks  to two  minutes  as  many people  are  waiting  online to                                                              
offer public testimony.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK  introduced Dr.  Birnbaum and  invited her  to begin a                                                              
presentation on PFAS.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:54:48 PM                                                                                                                    
[Audio difficulties during Dr. Birnbaums testimony.]                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  BIRNBAUM,  Ph.D., Scholar  in  Residence, Duke  University;                                                              
Scientist Emeritus  and Former  Director of National  Institute of                                                              
Environmental  Health  Sciences  (NIEHS)  and National  Toxicology                                                              
Program  (NTP),  Durham,  North  Carolina,  briefly  reviewed  the                                                              
science  of  PFAS.   SB  121  focuses  on   a  limited  number  of                                                              
compounds;  however, there  are over  12,000 different  PFAS known                                                              
as "forever  chemicals."  It is  important to  note that  PFAS are                                                              
present  in  consumer   products  and  have  over  200  uses.  She                                                              
presented a slideshow titled The Challenge of > 12,000 PFAS:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. BIRNBAUM advanced to slide 2:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     How are we exposed?                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     ? Diverse group of chemical compounds used in industry                                                                     
       and consumer products worldwide since 1950s                                                                              
     ? Contaminant in Drinking water                                                                                            
     ? Found in various products:                                                                                               
     ? Carpet and Fabric                                                                                                        
     ? Food Packaging and Food                                                                                                  
     ? Pots and Pans                                                                                                            
     ? Clothing                                                                                                                 
     ? Cardboard packaging                                                                                                      
     ? Firefighting foams (AFFF)                                                                                                
       Cosmetics                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
       Ingestion (Drinking Water, Food, Dust), Inhalation,                                                                      
     Dermal                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
               (>200 Use Categories [Gl?ge et al., Environ Sci:                                                                 
                                      Processes&Impacts 2020])                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR. BIRNBAUM  advanced to  slide 3, PFAS:  Multi-System Toxicants.                                                              
The  slide   illustrated  that   PFAS  are  linked   to  adversely                                                              
affecting  different areas  of the  body: thyroid,  immune system,                                                              
liver, pancreas,  kidney, cancer  cells, reproductive  organs, and                                                              
neurodevelopment.                                                                                                               
                                           (Modified from ATSDR, 2018)                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR. BIRNBAUM  emphasized  that PFAS chemicals  do not  just affect                                                              
one set of one  species. PFAS affects almost  every system she has                                                              
studied  and organ  system,  including  exposure in  utero  and in                                                              
life.  Many cancers,  such  as kidney  and  testicular,  and other                                                              
medical conditions  like low birth  rates and diabetes,  to name a                                                              
few,  have been  tied to  PFAS. PFAS  can affect  the reproductive                                                              
system,  especially   in  developing  males   and  females.  These                                                              
chemicals  affect   system  development.   For  example,  multiple                                                              
studies  indicated  that the  mammary  glands  of nursing  mothers                                                              
affected  with  high levels  of  PFAS  stop  nursing their  babies                                                              
sooner.  Epidemiologist   studies  show   that  essentially  every                                                              
affect  identified   exhibits  similar   results  on  experimental                                                              
animals as well.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:18 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. BIRNBAUM advanced to slide 4:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     EPA's PFAS Strategic Roadmap                                                                                             
     (October 18, 2021):                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ? PFAS Contamination poses unique challenges                                                                               
       ? Lifecycle Approach; Get Upstream of the Problem;                                                                       
          Hold Polluters Accountable: Ensure Science-based                                                                      
          Decision   Making;    Prioritize    Protection   of                                                                   
          Disadvantaged Communities                                                                                             
     ? Strategic Roadmap Goals                                                                                                  
       ? Research/Restrict/Remediate                                                                                            
     ? Next Steps                                                                                                               
       ? Work with ALL stakeholders                                                                                             
       ? Initiate National Engagement and partnerships                                                                          
       ? Stakeholder Listening Sessions                                                                                         
       ? Harness the collective resources and authorities                                                                       
          across   federal,   tribal,    state,   and   local                                                                   
          governments - ? meaningful action                                                                                     
          Initiate Testing Strategy involving 24 PFAS                                                                           
          categories                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
               (USGS: Integrated Science for the Study of PFAS in the                                                           
                     Environment: A Strategic Science Vision (2021))                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. BIRNBAUM informed members that all the strategic goals will                                                                 
take years to accomplish.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:59:46 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. BIRNBAUM  reviewed a  chart on  slide 5 which  depicted recent                                                              
U.S. state  and federal  drinking water  guidelines for  PFAS. She                                                              
emphasized many  state guidelines are moving  ahead of the federal                                                              
government.  As more  is learned  about these  chemicals, multiple                                                              
state advisory levels continue on a downward trajectory.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
           (Post GB. Recent US State and Federal Drinking Water Guidelines                                                      
           for Per- and Polyfluoroalkyl Substances. Environ. Toxicol. Chem.                                                     
                                 2021;40:560563. DOI: 10.1002 /etc.4863)                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:00:03 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. BIRNBAUM advanced to slide 6:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     New EPA/OW Risk Assessments for 5 PFAS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     PFAS Compound       Chronic RfD     Drinking Water                                                                       
                         (mg/kg-day)     (ppt)*                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     PFOS                 0.0000000079   ~1                                                                                     
     (Proposed 2021)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     PFOA                 0.0000000015   ~0.2                                                                                   
     (Proposed 2021)**                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     PFOA/PFOS            0.0002         70                                                                                     
     (2016***)                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     GenX (2021)          0.000003       420                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     PFBS (2021)          0.00003        4200                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     PFBA                 0.01           14000000                                                                               
     (Proposed 2021)                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     *Assume 70 kg adult drinks 2 liters of water/day                                                                           
     **MCLG = 0 based on cancer                                                                                                 
     ***Lifetime Health Advisory for the SPFOA+PFOS                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:01:04 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS asked  whether PFAS exists  in nature  or whether                                                              
it is a manufactured chemical and, if so, who manufactures it.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[The  following recorded  testimony  of Dr.  Birnbaum  is slightly                                                              
defective due to a poor audio/video connection.]                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. BIRNBAUM  replied that PFAS are not  naturally occurring; they                                                              
are  all  products  of  industrial  activity.  She  gave  a  brief                                                              
synopsis of  PFAS history. 3M began  manufacturing essentially all                                                              
PFAS, especially  PFOA  and PFOS, in  the 1950s.  DuPont purchased                                                              
these PFAS  compounds for  use in  various consumer  products, and                                                              
when  3M  stopped making  PFOS  and  PFOA  in  2002, DuPont  began                                                              
manufacturing  PFOA itself. By  2013, significant  amounts of data                                                              
indicated  PFAS  compounds  were  severely  detrimental  to  human                                                              
consumption and  the environment. In response  to this data, about                                                              
eight  companies   voluntarily  stopped  making   PFOAs,  and  the                                                              
companies switched  to manufacturing new  types of PFAS compounds,                                                              
none  of which  had toxicity  data available.  Currently,  as data                                                              
becomes  available, the  new types of  PFAS compounds  are proving                                                              
equally  environmentally  resistant,  they  are  not  going  to go                                                              
away,  and many  of  the new  compounds  share the  same  types of                                                              
toxicity as PFOA and PFOS.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:02:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  thanked Dr. Birnbaum for the  presentation and opened                                                              
public testimony on SB 121.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:03:44 PM                                                                                                                    
JON  ERICKSON,  Manager, City  and  Borough  of Yakutat,  Yakutat,                                                              
Alaska, testified  in support of SB 121. He  has been the city and                                                              
borough manager  for about eight years. He  did not know what PFAS                                                              
was when  he became aware  of them about  5 1/2 years  ago, but he                                                              
has  since  become  quite   an  expert  on  the  subject.  Yakutat                                                              
previously  had six  hot  wells, but  after requirements  changed,                                                              
the city  now has two wells  that consistently test  as hot. These                                                              
two wells  service Yakutat's  restaurant and hotel  and contribute                                                              
10-15 percent  of Yakutat's sales  tax revenue.  The Department of                                                              
Transportation  and  Public   Facilities  (DOTPF)  brings  bottled                                                              
water by  the case  so that these  two establishments  can provide                                                              
consumables  made  with  clean water.  He  noted  that  PFAS  is a                                                              
contact  chemical  and  he did  not  know  how  hotel guests  took                                                              
showers.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. ERICKSON  commented that  he testified  two years  ago on this                                                              
subject,  stating that  he  independently tested  the  city's well                                                              
for 17  PFAS compounds,  of which there  were none.  The city well                                                              
is approximately  two  miles uphill  from the  contaminated wells.                                                              
When drilling a  new well too close to  the contaminated site, the                                                              
problem of  PFAS spread  might occur. A  water line  from the good                                                              
well could  be extended  about 2 1/2  to 3 miles  and connected to                                                              
the  restaurant and  hotel  to avoid  this  problem.  Yakutat just                                                              
received  a $1.2  million grant  to upgrade  the water  system. He                                                              
suggested  extending the  water line to  solve the  water problem.                                                              
As a  side note, the  city does not  have a solution  for cleaning                                                              
up PFAS-contaminated soil.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK   reminded  testifiers  that   written  testimony  is                                                              
welcome  and can  be submitted  to sres@akleg.gov  or  directly to                                                              
his office.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:08:11 PM                                                                                                                    
PATRICE LEE,  Representing Self,  Fairbanks, Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support  of  SB  121.   She  is  concerned  about  the  five  PFAS                                                              
compounds  known to be  in the Fairbanks  public water  supply, as                                                              
reported  by the  Golden  Heart Utilities  annual  report. Whether                                                              
PFAS  levels are  high or  low is  unknown because  standards have                                                              
not been  established. She asked  that the legislature  helps with                                                              
setting standards,  among other  things. Thousands  of private and                                                              
public wells  are contaminated in the  Fairbanks NorthStar Borough                                                              
(FNSB) and  throughout  the state; they  directly threaten  to the                                                              
health  and  safety  of all  who  drink,  cook,  bathe,  make baby                                                              
formula, and  recreate. Animals  drink the water  and are affected                                                              
too.  In addition  to the  poor wintertime  air quality,  FNSB now                                                              
has the  heavy burden of  air, water, and  soil contamination. The                                                              
documentation  of  PFAS contamination  in  the  borough  and their                                                              
harmful  effects  on  Alaskans  is mounting.  Fifty-five  thousand                                                              
gallons of PFAS  waste were improperly disposed  of in the Rolling                                                              
Stone   gravel   pit   as   documented   by  the   Department   of                                                              
Environmental  Conservation  (DEC). The  time for  action  is now.                                                              
PFAS compounds  and foams need  to be outlawed  and drinking water                                                              
standards  set. This  is an  important  first step.  She expressed                                                              
interest in knowing  who would be the first  to drink from a five-                                                              
gallon bucket  of PFAS  contaminated water. She  reminded everyone                                                              
listening of  the Golden Rule. She stated  that Piledriver Slough,                                                              
once  her  favorite,  picture-perfect   place  to  fish  with  her                                                              
children, is  now PFAS-contaminated  and unsafe,  probably for the                                                              
rest of  her life.  She expressed  concern about the  lakes around                                                              
Eielson  Air  Force  Base,   plumes  of  PFAS,  and  the  lack  of                                                              
enforcement  against  violators.  She  beseeched  members  to make                                                              
some progress in protecting the health and safety of Alaskans.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:11:08 PM                                                                                                                    
JOE LALLY,  Director of  Programs, Prince Williams  Sound Regional                                                              
Citizens'  Advisory Council (RCAC),  Valdez, Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121. He  has served  on the council  for four years                                                              
and  is currently  the council's  program  director. The  scope of                                                              
RCAC's mission  has a  relatively narrow  focus, so  the council's                                                              
interest in  SB 121  is limited to  the Aqueous Film  Forming Foam                                                              
(AFFF) stored  at the  Valdez Marine Terminal  and on  some of the                                                              
related vessels  to suppress  fires. AFFF contains  PFAS known for                                                              
their  persistence  in  the  environment  and harmful  effects  on                                                              
people  and  animals.   Any  release  of  AFFF  could  contaminate                                                              
drinking water  and state  waters including Prince  William Sound.                                                              
With  this  in mind,  Prince  William  Sound  RCAC also  submitted                                                              
written  testimony  for   consideration  during  today's  hearing.                                                              
Prince  William  Sound  RCAC  supports  the proposed  language  on                                                              
pages 3  and 4 of  SB 121, work  order 32-LS0001G,  empowering the                                                              
Alaska  State Fire  Marshal to  restrict  the use  of firefighting                                                              
substances  containing  PFAS if  the  fire  marshal  determines an                                                              
alternative    non-PFAS   substance    is   available.    Such   a                                                              
determination   depends  on   the  approval   of   an  alternative                                                              
firefighting  substance  by the  Federal  Occupational  Safety and                                                              
Health Administration.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A secondary  matter of  concern that the  passage of  SB 121 could                                                              
mitigate stems  from the $900,425,000 oil  and hazardous substance                                                              
release prevention  and response fund used  to respond to releases                                                              
of  PFAS statewide.  It is  proper for  the  state to  respond and                                                              
deal with  such hazardous  substance releases;  statutes allow DEC                                                              
to use  the response  fund to  assess PFAS  releases that  pose an                                                              
imminent  and substantial  threat to  the public  health, welfare,                                                              
or environment.  However, the fund  was never intended  to pay all                                                              
the long-term  remediation costs  after the initial  emergency had                                                              
passed. A  danger of  using the response  fund for  long-term PFAS                                                              
remediation is  that every dollar  spent on  such activity reduces                                                              
the  amount available  for a  swift  response to  an oil  spill or                                                              
other  hazardous  substance   release  disaster.  The  overarching                                                              
purpose of  the fund is  to allow for  a speedy  and full response                                                              
to an  acute disaster  such as  an oil  spill. However,  using the                                                              
fund for  long-term PFAS remediation  could easily  drain the fund                                                              
to zero. It  could result in the state  being less able to respond                                                              
immediately to an oil spill or chemical release.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:14:07 PM                                                                                                                    
PATTI SAUNDERS,  Representing  Self, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                              
in  support  of SB  121.  She has  devoted  her  life  since young                                                              
adulthood  to  issues   of  pollution  and  toxic  chemicals.  She                                                              
expressed  grave concern  about  PFAS which  are  by far  the most                                                              
alarming  compounds  due  to  their  combination  of  persistence,                                                              
bioaccumulation,  and   non-degradation  qualities.  They  do  not                                                              
break down  in nature,  nor has science  figured out  how to break                                                              
the bond  between the  carbon and  the fluorine  molecules. Couple                                                              
that  with the  fact that  PFAS are  extremely toxic  at extremely                                                              
low  levels.  She  recalled   that  toxic  chemicals  used  to  be                                                              
referred to  in parts per  million. However,  PFAS toxicity levels                                                              
are  referred to  in less  than one  part  per trillion,  so there                                                              
really are  no safe  PFAS levels.  She expressed  her appreciation                                                              
that the  state is  addressing this  serious problem,  because the                                                              
state  can  act more  quickly  than  the  federal government.  She                                                              
beseeched  members to  act as  quickly  as possible  because every                                                              
day there  is more  pollution, more  harm to humans,  animals, and                                                              
the environment.  The damage is  difficult to undo.  PFAS are hard                                                              
to  recapture  once in  the  environment.  Once PFAS  is  in one's                                                              
body, there  is no known  way to remove  it. The  number one thing                                                              
that can  be done is  prevention, follow  the science  and ban it.                                                              
If  there  has  to be  a  phase-out  schedule,  it  should  be the                                                              
fastest   schedule  possible   and   not  a   schedule   based  on                                                              
convenience.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK  reiterated that  testifiers  are  welcome  to submit                                                              
additional comments in writing to sres@akleg.gov.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:17:56 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY MCLAUGHLIN,  Chair, Gustavus  PFAS Action  Coalition (GPAC),                                                              
Gustavus,  Alaska,  testified   the  coalition  supports  SB  121.                                                              
Though  GPAC  has  worked  towards  awareness and  remediation  of                                                              
PFAS, Gustavus  is still  consuming contaminated  water, just like                                                              
other locations  across Alaska.  While PFAS-contaminated  water is                                                              
not  an  isolated  problem  unique  to  Alaskans,  the problem  is                                                              
manifestly noticeable.  Alaska is a land  of abundance and purity;                                                              
she clarified  that it is perceived purity.  Alaskans are healthy,                                                              
robust  people,  and the  last  thing on  an  Alaskan's  mind when                                                              
enjoying   the  outdoors  or   hunting,  is   PFAS  contamination.                                                              
Unfortunately,  PFAS  contamination  is  in  the  environment  and                                                              
found in  wild game, like moose  liver and bear  meat. The problem                                                              
bio-magnifies,  meaning the  higher  up the  food chain,  the more                                                              
dramatic the contamination.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCLAUGHLIN  said that Gustavus organized  a blood draw to test                                                              
affected   community   members.   Results   indicated   a   direct                                                              
correlation   between  drinking   water  contamination   and  body                                                              
burdens  of PFAS.  A subsequent  data  analysis  compared personal                                                              
body  burdens of  PFAS and  personal health  history  with overall                                                              
health. Results  led to positive correlations,  meaning the higher                                                              
the burden  of PFAS,  the worse the  subject's health.  A chemical                                                              
company  representative  testified before  the  committee, stating                                                              
there  was insufficient  data to  warrant the  blood test  in this                                                              
bill. She interpreted  the representative to  mean that as long as                                                              
the data  is nonexistent,  it is  harder to hold  culpable parties                                                              
accountable  for their  actions.  Affected Alaskans  need  to know                                                              
the extent to  which they are contaminated,  not only for peace of                                                              
mind but to  inform a larger set of data  that will help determine                                                              
at what level PFAS is likely to cause disease.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCLAUGHLIN said  that PFAS is not going  away. It is a forever                                                              
chemical;  however, personal  blood  tests showed  that decreasing                                                              
exposure to the  main contaminate source,  water in this case, can                                                              
substantially  lower  the   body's  burden.  She  illustrated  the                                                              
point,  stating that  her  blood serum  test went  from  10,000 to                                                              
7,000  parts   per  trillion  just  one   year  after  eliminating                                                              
contaminated  water. Clean  water for all  Alaskans is  a natural,                                                              
God-given right, and it must be protected.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:21:06 PM                                                                                                                    
SARA  MASSMANN,  Legislative  Committee  Co-Chair,  Alaska  Nurses                                                              
Association,   Ketchikan,   Alaska,   testified  the   association                                                              
supports  SB  121.  She is  an  intensive  care  unit  nurse  at a                                                              
hospital  in Ketchikan.  Nurses  are proponents  of  public health                                                              
initiatives.  PFAS chemicals  are highly  toxic and are  linked to                                                              
multiple  harmful health  effects,  including immune  suppression,                                                              
increased  risk of  high  blood pressure,  and  increased  risk of                                                              
thyroid   disease.   PFAS    chemicals   can   also   reduce   the                                                              
effectiveness  of  certain   vaccines.  The  association  supports                                                              
following a  science-based model  enacted in states  such as Maine                                                              
and Massachusetts.  Health care  resources were  stretched thin in                                                              
different  areas   throughout  the   state  prior   to  the  COVID                                                              
pandemic.  The association  supports  passage  of SB  121  to help                                                              
prevent  the harmful effects  of PFAS  chemicals. The  state needs                                                              
to work together  to decrease the use  of Alaska's precious health                                                              
care resources when an opportunity presents itself.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:22:35 PM                                                                                                                    
GREG  STREVELER, representing  self,  Gustavus,  Alaska, testified                                                              
in support  of  SB 121.  He has  been involved  with the  issue of                                                              
PFAS for  quite a long time.  The issue is a  big deal in Gustavus                                                              
as it is  in many places.  He thanked Senator Kiehl,  who has done                                                              
very well by Gustavus in this bill and in many other ways.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. STREVELER focused on two issues:                                                                                            
1.  He  reiterated  Dr.  Birnbaum's  previous comments  about  the                                                              
downward trend  of PFAS safety  levels. SB 121  should require the                                                              
adoption  of different  standards and consider  the wide  range of                                                              
PFAS variants  when establishing  standards. It  is important that                                                              
the bill retain timely agency review language.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2. SB 121 is  a first step. Gustavus  has hundreds of contaminated                                                              
acres and  hundreds of contaminated  wells just  sitting. The best                                                              
that can  be done  is to  keep them from  getting worse.  He asked                                                              
that  intent language  be added  to the  bill,  explicitly stating                                                              
that the  legislature will address  the issue  of remediation when                                                              
viable  methods  to do  so  are  fully  developed. Eventually  the                                                              
state must circle back around to the issue of remediation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:24:45 PM                                                                                                                    
ANNA GODDUHN,  representing self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121. She has  lived in Fairbanks  for 30 years. She                                                              
stated  that although  she lives  in a  PFAS plume-free  area, she                                                              
has friends  living across  the Chena  from the airport  where the                                                              
wells  are mostly  below  65 parts  per trillion.  While  this may                                                              
sound  great, it  is disconcerting  that  health impacts  occur at                                                              
this  level.  She  agreed  with  testifiers  who  said  it is  the                                                              
state's   responsibility  to   protect  vulnerable   citizens,  in                                                              
particular   children   during   development.   One   unmentioned,                                                              
dangerous  aspect of  PFAS chemicals  is the  way they  affect the                                                              
hormonal  activity  of  children.  Contamination  is  measured  in                                                              
parts per  trillion, because  hormones  are active in  the single-                                                              
digit   parts  per   trillion.  As   it  concerns   hormones,  the                                                              
discussions  between 700,  70 and  20 parts  per trillion  are too                                                              
high. She expressed  hope that Alaska will  meet with other states                                                              
whose  safety levels  require fewer  parts  per trillion  than the                                                              
EPA's  70; 70  parts per  trillion is  not low  enough. SB  121 is                                                              
great  legislation   and  she  expressed   gratitude  for  getting                                                              
started but  agreed with  other testifiers  that SB  121 could use                                                              
improvement.  She recommended the  state ban incineration  of PFAS                                                              
contaminants  as  it affects  polar  bears  and  Inuit  babies who                                                              
already have  enough forever  chemicals in their  blood. The state                                                              
needs to figure  out better methods than  incineration, and in the                                                              
meantime, store  PFAS safely.  The federal government  is failing,                                                              
so she  expressed appreciation to  the committee for  taking up SB
121,  working on  it, and  doing the  best  they could  to protect                                                              
citizens.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:27:22 PM                                                                                                                    
PAMELA  MILLER, Senior  Scientist and  Executive  Director, Alaska                                                              
Community  Action on Toxics  (ACAT), Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                              
in support  of SB  121. ACAT is  a statewide  environmental health                                                              
research  and  advocacy  organization.  A  written  statement  was                                                              
submitted,  so this  statement  is  shortened in  the  interest of                                                              
time. Actions  to address  PFAS contamination  in Alaska  are long                                                              
overdue.  The   safety  of  drinking  water   and  the  health  of                                                              
thousands  of  people  throughout  the  state  are  threatened  or                                                              
already  harmed   by  PFAS   contamination.  Inaction   will  only                                                              
perpetuate   harm   and   cause   liability   costs  to   increase                                                              
exponentially.  Question  the  cost  of  inaction  on the  state's                                                              
health,  fish,  and wildlife  in  future  generations.  To Senator                                                              
Stevens'   earlier  point,   federal  infrastructure   legislation                                                              
contains   substantial   funding,  nearly   $10   billion,  toward                                                              
addressing  PFAS contamination.  Senator  Kiehl pointed  out there                                                              
are  major   airports  using  safe,   effective  alternative  PFAS                                                              
firefighting  foams, as  well  as military  installations  and oil                                                              
and  gas  facilities   all  over  the   world.  Firefighters  face                                                              
occupational health  and safety issues with  PFAS. Cancers are the                                                              
leading  cause of  death among  firefighters and  firefighters are                                                              
leading efforts  to replace PFAS with  safe alternatives. Although                                                              
SB 121  does not accomplish  everything ACAT would  like to see in                                                              
comprehensive PFAS  legislation, this bill is  a step in the right                                                              
direction. ACAT  calls upon state legislators  to support and pass                                                              
this  legislation  this  session.  Alaskans  should  not  be  left                                                              
behind   while  other   states   take  the   lead   enacting  more                                                              
substantial protective health legislation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:29:46 PM                                                                                                                    
DAVID  BERREY,   Coordinator,   Wake-Up  Alaskans   to  the  Toxic                                                              
Environmental  Reality  (WATER), Fairbanks,  Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121.  He asked committee  members to  think back to                                                              
2015.  Members  of  the  community  were  notified  they had  been                                                              
drinking hazardous  water from  their wells. Since  that time, the                                                              
affected community has tried:                                                                                                   
- to get testing,                                                                                                               
- to alert  the legislature  as to the dangers  of PFAS chemicals,                                                              
and                                                                                                                             
- to get reasonable PFAS safety standards established.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BERREY  counted the  years  2016,  2017,  2018, 2019,  asking                                                              
rhetorically  whether committee members  knew why  he was counting                                                              
the years. He  emphasized that it has been  7 1/2 years that those                                                              
with contaminated  wells have gone without  protection or testing.                                                              
A lot  of neighbors have  died from  cancer. It is  unknown if the                                                              
cause  was PFAS or  PFOA. The  cause will  never be  known because                                                              
there was never  any testing. Community  members with contaminated                                                              
wells have never  been given clean water  and have had to purchase                                                              
their own.  He likened the  treatment to second  class citizens of                                                              
a third  world country.  Now is  the time to  pass SB  121; it has                                                              
been far  too long. The legislature  needs to do  something and do                                                              
it now.  Contamination  will continue to  occur because  there are                                                              
no penalties  to deter it.  He questioned why the  State of Alaska                                                              
does not go  after the chemical companies,  especially since those                                                              
companies knew what they were doing was wrong.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:32:05 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN KENNISH,  Representing Self, Anchorage,  Alaska, testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121.  He stated that  the impact of  PFAS chemicals                                                              
is damaging  to the human  population. He expressed  hope that the                                                              
legislature  seriously  and actively  pushes  SB  121  through the                                                              
legislative process,  so that  people could have  an evaluation of                                                              
their exposure  levels.  He offered assurance,  as a  professor at                                                              
the  University  of  Alaska      Anchorage  with  over  50  years'                                                              
experience as  a chemist, most of these  chemicals are detrimental                                                              
in  terms  of  human exposures.  PFAS  compounds  impact  hormonal                                                              
regulation  and are  all  typically catastrophic  with  regards to                                                              
human health.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KENNISH  expressed hope that the committee  recognizes the key                                                              
issue,  which  is  providing  support  to  people  who  have  been                                                              
unwittingly  exposed to these  chemicals and providing  the option                                                              
for evaluation after exposure.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:33:54 PM                                                                                                                    
TRISTAN  GLOWA, Representing  Self,  Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified                                                              
in support  of  SB 121.  He expressed  gratitude to  the committee                                                              
for considering  the bill. The  protections in SB  121 are overdue                                                              
considering how  long the issue has been  present in Alaska. Also,                                                              
according  to  PFAS data  he  has read,  protections  in  the bill                                                              
should  be stronger  to be  scientifically valid.  It is  an issue                                                              
that affects  the whole  community. He would  like to  live in the                                                              
Interior  and raise  children. However,  the constant  worry about                                                              
the long-term  health effects of living  somewhere with unreliably                                                              
safe air  and water,  factor into  the decision.  Similar concerns                                                              
hold true  for young people  with whom he  converses in Fairbanks,                                                              
and other areas of the state.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GLOWA  said the  housing market  in Fairbanks  is not  good. A                                                              
lot of  people get pushed  out to North  Pole where  there is both                                                              
PFAS and  sulfolane; some  are unaware  of the  contaminates until                                                              
after they  have moved. It  is unacceptable to  expose children to                                                              
risks  that  can cause  cancer  or  permanently  damage  an immune                                                              
system.  These problems  are hurting the  potential future  of the                                                              
community.  Alaskans  deserve  better.  He expressed  appreciation                                                              
for all  aspects of  the legislation,  especially  the enforceable                                                              
drinking water  standards and  the 'polluter pays'  principle. The                                                              
legislation could  be improved by considering  PFAS chemicals as a                                                              
class rather  than focusing on individual  chemicals. Other states                                                              
have lower maximum PFAS contaminate levels.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK  interrupted Mr. Glowa, stating  there is a two-minute                                                              
time limit for public testimony.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. GLOWA  made two final  points. Alaska should  ban incineration                                                              
of PFAS waste,  and the oil and gas industry  should not be exempt                                                              
from the phase-out of firefighting foams.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:36:53 PM                                                                                                                    
LYNETTE PHAM,  Representing Self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, testified in                                                              
support  of SB  121. This  bill  is a  step forward  in  the right                                                              
direction.  PFAS chemicals  are contaminating  the  drinking water                                                              
of  thousands  of  Alaskans  from  the  North Slope  to  Southeast                                                              
Alaska. Testimony  shared today  has informed the  committee about                                                              
what  low exposure  to PFAS  chemicals  does. Alaskans  should not                                                              
have  to demand  safe drinking  water; it  is a  fundamental human                                                              
right.  The   legislature  must   pass  more   comprehensive  PFAS                                                              
measures  founded on  science-based models  like those  enacted in                                                              
Maine  and Massachusetts.  Many  experts, like  those  here today,                                                              
testified  about   PFAS  chemicals  and   their  harmful  effects.                                                              
Information  about PFAS abounds.  Allowing PFAS  chemicals to harm                                                              
community  members  is and  has  been an  act  of severe  neglect.                                                              
Allowing it to  continue is perpetuating harm.  Alaska is home and                                                              
she will  always advocate to  protect Alaska, its  people, and its                                                              
stewards. She  encouraged legislators  to persuade  their peers to                                                              
pass  SB  121  with  even   stronger  amendments  to  ensure  safe                                                              
drinking  water   in  Alaska,   thus  protecting   the  health  of                                                              
Alaskans.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:38:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SIQINIQ MAUPIN,  Director, Sovereign  Inupiat for  a Living Arctic                                                              
(SILA),  North  Pole, Alaska,  testified  in  support  of  SB 121,                                                              
stating  this  bill is  long  overdue.  She  attended  the Geneva,                                                              
Switzerland Conference  of the Parties  (COP) to wipe  out PFAS in                                                              
2018. The  United States was  one of the only  developed countries                                                              
that  was  not ratified.  The  United  States  is severely  behind                                                              
every  other country,  even  counties that  Americans  perceive as                                                              
less  developed   are  far   more  advanced  in   eliminating  and                                                              
transitioning  out of PFAS  usage. She  realized in  2018 that her                                                              
father,  a foreman  in Fairbanks,  had  developed cancer  from on-                                                              
the-job  exposure   to  PFAS.  She  is   publicly  addressing  and                                                              
spreading  awareness to this  issue through  SILA, and  it is also                                                              
an issue  that is  personal. She  knew a firefighter  in Fairbanks                                                              
who worked  on the base  and developed testicular  cancer. This is                                                              
very common among those exposed to PFAS.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MAUPIN stated  that she lives in North  Pole because the price                                                              
of homes  was  cheaper. She  later learned  the price  was cheaper                                                              
because the  property had been  exposed to chemicals  and that the                                                              
home's well  water was  contaminated. She expressed  distress that                                                              
she and her  children will develop cancer.  She questioned whether                                                              
the secure,  more stable housing  in North Pole  was worth risking                                                              
her  family's  health. She  urged  the committee  to  make  SB 121                                                              
stronger  and not  to throw  away low  income and  rural families,                                                              
and  indigenous peoples.  Indigenous  peoples will  be  here, left                                                              
with contaminated  water when all development  and money are gone.                                                              
This is  environmental racism. SB  121 needs to  be pushed through                                                              
and it will speak volumes if it fails to pass.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:41:33 PM                                                                                                                    
GARRISON  COLLETTE, Representing  Self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, stated                                                              
that  he received  a  chemistry  degree  from UAF  in  2006  so he                                                              
understood the  subject matter, and  thus supports  SB 121. He did                                                              
not realize  PFAS was  in Fairbank's  drinking water  until today.                                                              
He gets  his water  from the Golden  Heart Utilities'  water wagon                                                              
and  just pulled  up the  utilities' water  quality  test results.                                                              
The report  indicated  these chemicals  were in  Fairbank's water:                                                              
perfluorohexane  sulfonate  acid  (PFHxS), perfluorohexanoic  acid                                                              
(PFHxA),  perfluorooctane   sulfonate   (PFOS),  perfluorooctanoic                                                              
acid (PFOA).  Although the  PFAS levels  in the glass  of drinking                                                              
water  before him are  below those  suggested  in the bill,  he is                                                              
thinking twice  about taking another  sip. SB 121  appears to be a                                                              
strong  first  step.  However,  he  would  like  to  see the  PFOA                                                              
minimum safe  level lower  than 400,000  ppt. PFAS are  one of the                                                              
very  few totally  synthetic  chemicals;  the naturally  occurring                                                              
hydrogen in  hydrocarbons is replaced  by fluorine. Unfortunately,                                                              
incineration is  the only thing  that can be done  with it. SB 121                                                              
takes the right  approach, focusing on  preventing it from getting                                                              
into the environment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK  reminded testifiers about the  strict two-minute time                                                              
limit and  that public  testimony may  be submitted  in writing to                                                              
sres@akleg.gov.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:44:21 PM                                                                                                                    
JACKIE  BOYER,  Campaign   and  Policy  Director,  Native  Peoples                                                              
Action   (NPA),  and   Native  Peoples   Action   Community  Fund,                                                              
Anchorage,  Alaska, testified  that NPA  supports SB 121.  Part of                                                              
NPA's focus  is on  the health and  wellness of  indigenous people                                                              
and communities,  spiritual wellness, practicing  traditional ways                                                              
of  life of  hunting and  fishing, individual  physical  health by                                                              
recognizing  and acting on  disparities that exist,  and uplifting                                                              
the  voices of  those most  impacted.  For those  reasons,  NPA is                                                              
encouraged  the committee  is taking  the time  to look  into PFAS                                                              
contamination.  PFAS  is harmful,  especially  when  it  gets into                                                              
drinking  water. It  puts  Alaskans  at greater  health  risks for                                                              
thyroid  disease,  decreased   fertility,  decreased  birth  rate,                                                              
immune suppression,  liver disease,  and certain  cancers. Studies                                                              
show  that Alaskan  Natives  suffer  at greater  risk  for certain                                                              
cancers.  It  is  concerning  that  there  are so  many  confirmed                                                              
contaminated  sites in  Alaska,  impacting individuals,  families,                                                              
babies, children,  animals, and fish. More  contamination may show                                                              
up in  the future, and  it may compound in  individuals previously                                                              
exposed. Setting  limits on the amount of  PFAS in drinking water,                                                              
providing  clean  drinking  water,  providing  blood testing,  and                                                              
preventing future pollution are all reasonable measures.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:46:26 PM                                                                                                                    
SARA THOMAS,  Representing Self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support  of  SB  121.  She  relayed  that  the Navy  informed  the                                                              
community  about contamination  in Imikpuk  Lake in 2017.  She has                                                              
two best  friends that have  been taking thyroid  medication since                                                              
they were teens.  They drank water directly  from Imikpuk Lake; it                                                              
was sold directly  to the public through the  2000s. She has a lot                                                              
of friends and  family members who are  currently battling cancer.                                                              
She has  lost a lot  of family members  and friends  to cancer and                                                              
rare  cancer,   cancer  that  is  not  so   rare  up  north.  PFAS                                                              
contamination is  all over the United  States and world. Chemours,                                                              
DuPont and  3M knew how  toxic and dangerous  these chemicals were                                                              
when they  made and  sold them. The  companies set  aside billions                                                              
of dollars  to deal  with lawsuits.  She urged  the passage  of SB
121,  and to  hold those  companies accountable  for  the cleanup.                                                              
The cost of clean water is worth whatever it takes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:49:35 PM                                                                                                                    
KATHERINE  DU  PLESSIS,   Representing  Self,  Anchorage,  Alaska,                                                              
testified in  support of SB 121.  She is a biologist  and a mother                                                              
of a  four-year-old. In  three days,  she will attend  the funeral                                                              
of an uncle  who lost over  a yearlong battle to  cancer. She said                                                              
that four of  six uncles died from cancer  and all four aunts have                                                              
had  their  uterus  removed   due  to  the  effects  of  endocrine                                                              
disrupting pollution.  PFAS chemicals are  endocrine disrupters. A                                                              
legislator asked  an important  question about how  the state will                                                              
pay for  this.  Considering the  state's tight  budget, this  is a                                                              
very important  question. An ounce of prevention  is worth a pound                                                              
a cure.  The state has been  talking about this  almost ten years.                                                              
If  the  state  does  not   deal  with  this  now,  it  will  cost                                                              
exponentially  more than it  would have  cost the day  before. She                                                              
begged  legislators  to pass  SB  121.  Colorado, California,  and                                                              
Washington have  already banned it. Heathrow  Airport is not using                                                              
it. If  they can do  it, Alaska can  do it. The state  needs to do                                                              
it now.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:51:37 PM                                                                                                                    
CAROLINE WALKER,  Representing Self, Juneau,  Alaska, testified in                                                              
support  of SB  121.  She  and her  husband  recently  purchased a                                                              
second  home in  Gustavus and  quickly  became deeply  invested in                                                              
the community.  This home is not currently  affected with the PFAS                                                              
contamination  zone,  however,  after  the  flood  last year  they                                                              
became concerned  about PFAS spread and sought  help from GPAC for                                                              
the water testing  process. As groundwater  continues to rise from                                                              
flooding  every year,  their  concerns rise  about  their family's                                                              
health and  well-being. On behalf  of those  affected in Gustavus,                                                              
she urges  the passage of SB  121 as a step  forward in protecting                                                              
the health of Alaska's residents and visitors.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:52:44 PM                                                                                                                    
LESA HOLLEN,  Representing Self,  Anchorage, Alaska,  testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121, stating  she gained awareness  from PFAS phone                                                              
canvassing  in Alaska and  it seems  like it is  working. However,                                                              
more  information   needs  to  reach  the   public  through  media                                                              
coverage  and  education  criteria  in  schools.  She  spoke  with                                                              
people in  Salcha that have  new wells now, but  they have serious                                                              
health concerns  and have lost a lot of  family members to cancer.                                                              
They  pay for  costly filter  systems.  She spoke  with  people in                                                              
Fairbanks  who  have  contaminated  publicly  supplied  water  and                                                              
wells  and are  asking for  test kits.  Everyone asks  for cleanup                                                              
information.  People  in Sand  Lake  and the  Elmendorf  area have                                                              
over 24,000  parts per million  and they ask about  the passage of                                                              
laws to  help with  health recovery  and removal of  PFAS. Eielson                                                              
Air Force  Base has  one of  the highest  levels in the  nation at                                                              
2,000,000  parts per  million;  PFAS contamination  has  spread to                                                              
all Moose  Lake wells. Right  now, the Center  for Disease Control                                                              
(CDC)  and  the  United  States  Air  Force  are  petitioning  the                                                              
Department  of  Natural Resources  to  designate  the  Moose Creek                                                              
area  as  a   Critical  Water  Management   Area  (CWMA).  A  CWMA                                                              
designation  deems groundwater unsafe  for all  uses and prohibits                                                              
insulation in new wells. It has nationwide impact.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOLLEN  said  she  has  a master's  degree  in  neuroscience.                                                              
Neurotoxicity  is caused by PFAS  and it is  neuro-accumulative in                                                              
the  brain. Like  Parkinson's  disease, it  causes  lower dopamine                                                              
levels  and  neurons;  and  gather  receptors  decrease  function,                                                              
Nature   Magazine.  Purdue   University's  Cannon   research  says                                                              
dopamine is key  to movement reward. The  state needs to deal with                                                              
PFAS,  remove it,  and get  information  to the  public. Everybody                                                              
asks  whether  they can  have  children and  how  to  cleanup. She                                                              
encouraged  the legislature  to  answer these  questions  and help                                                              
those affected.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:55:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MIKE TAYLOR,  Mayor, Gustavus, Alaska, testified  in support of SB
121 where groundwater  contamination problems  are significant due                                                              
to PFAS  near the airport.  Committee members  heard from Gustavus                                                              
community members  Kelly McLaughlin, Greg  Streveler, and Caroline                                                              
Walker.  He 100 percent  supports  their testimonies  and applauds                                                              
Senator  Kiehl  for  sponsoring  this  important  bill.  He  is  a                                                              
retired  industrial   hygienist   but  does  not   claim  specific                                                              
expertise  in PFAS health  effects or  exposure characterizations.                                                              
SB  121 is  a vital  first  step towards  setting  groundwater and                                                              
drinking water contamination limits which need:                                                                                 
- to be based on epidemiological research,                                                                                      
- objective standard setting, and                                                                                               
- to draw on  extensive research to identify  and assess the human                                                              
  health effects found to develop from specific exposure limits                                                                 
  or body burdens.                                                                                                              
Once it  is known what  exposure levels or  body burdens represent                                                              
a  significant   health  effect,   meaningful  action   levels  or                                                              
exposure  limits can  be set.  Regulatory standards  should direct                                                              
actions  to be triggered  by measured  sample results  that exceed                                                              
identified  action  levels.   It  is  unclear  whether  sufficient                                                              
research  is  available yet  to  set  reliable, meaningful  action                                                              
levels. However,  provisional action levels  could be set based on                                                              
the best input  from experts, like those  who testified at the top                                                              
of  the  hearing. It  takes  time  to  go  through the  regulatory                                                              
process.  Nevertheless,   that  should  not   stop  or  slow  down                                                              
applying  or  mandating  proven  technology  to  reduce  potential                                                              
exposures  now.  Technologies  include  groundwater  and  drinking                                                              
water  testing,   identification  and   characterization  of  PFAS                                                              
contamination   plumes,  and   plume  stop  barriers   to  contain                                                              
contamination plumes  in groundwater. For  drinking water systems,                                                              
proven  efficient treatments  include  activated  charcoal granule                                                              
absorption  and reverse osmosis  systems. Assistance  from federal                                                              
and  state  governments  to  these  ends  needs  to  ramp  up.  He                                                              
applauds  banning PFAS  containing  AFFF as  soon as  possible. He                                                              
applauds  the   liability  exposure  limits   for  municipal  fire                                                              
departments.  Many have  used AFFF,  as they  were trained  to do,                                                              
with great  benefit to  the public, but  with no knowledge  of any                                                              
possible liability  exposure. It  is not productive  to bankrupt a                                                              
municipality  or  a  small  fire  department  for  past  use  of a                                                              
recommended standard product in the service of the public.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:58:15 PM                                                                                                                    
JANET NEILSON,  Representing Self, Gustavus,  Alaska, testified in                                                              
support of  SB 121. She  recently moved to  Juneau temporarily for                                                              
her children to  attend school, but prior to  that she was a year-                                                              
round   resident  for   over  20   years  in   Gustavus.  Gustavus                                                              
contaminated  PFAS groundwater  and  soil are  a  tragic, everyday                                                              
reality.  Picking strawberries  near  the Gustavus  airport  was a                                                              
family  activity  and it  is  heartbreaking  that  the  family can                                                              
longer  do  this  safely.  The  once wild  and  pristine,  beloved                                                              
community has  been forever changed.  It is hard  to describe what                                                              
that  feels like  to  look out  on  a beautiful  landscape  and to                                                              
realize that  invisible toxins are coursing  through the water and                                                              
soil. It is  even more painful knowing that  the government at the                                                              
federal  and  state  levels  have failed  Alaskans  in  regulating                                                              
these  insidious  chemicals.  Living  in  Juneau  where clean  and                                                              
uncontaminated  tap water flows  freely, it  is easy  to take safe                                                              
drinking  water  for  granted.  Many  committee  members  live  in                                                              
Juneau, Anchorage,  and Fairbanks,  where the same  convenience is                                                              
enjoyed.  However,  thousands  of  Alaskans  in  communities  like                                                              
Gustavus,   do  not  have   safe  drinking   water  due   to  PFAS                                                              
contamination.  It is  time for  the state to  act on  this issue.                                                              
The  EPA's  lifetime  health   advisory  level  is  70  parts  per                                                              
trillion.   SB  121   sets  lower,   enforceable   drinking  water                                                              
standards  for PFOA  and  PFOA and  in so  doing  goes a  long way                                                              
towards  protecting  Alaskans. Even  so,  these proposed  drinking                                                              
water  standards  are  not  low  enough.  She  advocates  for  the                                                              
passage  of SB  121 but  also urges  the  committee to  review the                                                              
current  science   on  PFAS  toxicity  and   make  the  bill  even                                                              
stronger.   Alaska  needs   to  follow   states  like   Maine  and                                                              
Massachusetts  and  amend   SB  121  to  set  a  combined  maximum                                                              
contaminate level  of 20 parts  per trillion or  less for at least                                                              
six  PFAS compounds.  PFOA  and PFAS  cannot be  the  state's only                                                              
concern.  She  supports  the provisions  of  the  bill  that offer                                                              
blood   testing    to   residents   and    responders,   including                                                              
firefighters.  Alaskans  have  a  right  to  know  their  exposure                                                              
levels.  She asked  the  committee  to remove  the  exemption that                                                              
allows the  oil and gas industry  to continue to  use PFAS or even                                                              
firefighting  foam.  There  is no  need  for  this exemption  when                                                              
safe, effective,  and economical  alternatives are  available. She                                                              
also urged the  committee to amend SB 121  to ban the incineration                                                              
of  PFAS waste,  because  it only  leads  to toxic  air  and wider                                                              
contamination.  She urged the  committee to consider  amending the                                                              
bill to make it even more protective and comprehensive.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
5:01:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS  HLADICK, Representing  Self,  Anchorage,  Alaska, testified                                                              
in support  of SB 121.  He served  as former city  manager, former                                                              
commissioner  of Department  of Commerce,  Community  and Economic                                                              
Development    (DCCED),   and    most   recently    EPA   regional                                                              
administrator  for Region  10. Having  lived  this issue  for many                                                              
years  in Seattle,  he applauds  and supports  SB 121. It  is good                                                              
that  the  committee  is  acting,  not  only  for  the  people  of                                                              
Gustavus, but  for the  whole state. It  is a good  building block                                                              
to get  started.  This will  cost money  and the  mitigation piece                                                              
will be  difficult  as has been  heard today  from experts.  It is                                                              
necessary to chip  away at it and keep  moving. Many people at the                                                              
EPA are  working  very hard  to set  this mean  contaminate level,                                                              
which  requires  toxicologists,  epidemiologists,  then  there  is                                                              
rulemaking, and  it takes longer  than people,  quite frankly, can                                                              
stand. He understands  this, especially when  people are living in                                                              
an   apparent  nightmare   like   the  people   in   Gustavus  are                                                              
experiencing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
5:03:12 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KAWASAKI mentioned  the Trump  administration  had talked                                                              
about  the  PFAS  issue  and  it  seemed positive.   He asked  Mr.                                                              
Hladick  to  share  a  little  about PFAS  discussions  under  EPA                                                              
Administrator Andrew Wheeler.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HLADICK  responded that  the game  plan under the  Division of                                                              
Water  was to through  a rule-making  process  with toxicologists.                                                              
He expressed  his belief  that at the  time 17 different  types of                                                              
PFAs  were  considered.   He  has  not  been  the  EPA  Region  10                                                              
Administrator  since  January 20,  2021,  so PFAS  types  may have                                                              
been  added since  he  left. The  Biden  administration  has taken                                                              
this issue  up and is working  hard on it.  DEC Commissioner Brune                                                              
takes  this issue  seriously as  well.  He and  Commissioner Brune                                                              
worked together,  exploring PFAS  incineration in  Fairbanks which                                                              
is  not  a  good  disposal  option.  It  only  creates  additional                                                              
problems. It  will be very expensive  to send PFAS  to Oregon in a                                                              
55-gallon  drum  and  it  will  not  relieve  the state  from  the                                                              
liability of the drum's contents.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
5:04:347 PM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR REVAK closed public testimony on SB 121.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK said  he was  informed that  10 billion  PFAS dollars                                                              
from  the federal  government will  be  distributed by  formula to                                                              
all 50 states.  The state is waiting to  hear the amount allocated                                                              
to Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
[CHAIR REVAK held SB 121 in committee.]                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 121 EPA PFAS Information Sheet.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 ATSDR PFAS Information Sheet.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Executive Summary - Michigan Report on PFAS Health Effect.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Letters of Support Received by 2021-04-26.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 PFAS Reference Sheet.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Letters of Support Batch 2 4.27.21.pdf SRES 4/28/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Sponsor Statement.pdf SRES 5/3/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Letters of Support printed 6.2.21.pdf SRES 5/3/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Sectional Analysis ver. A.pdf SRES 5/3/2021 3:30:00 PM
SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Fiscal Note Department of Enviromental Conservation, Enviromental Health 2.11.2022.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Fiscal Note Department of Enviromental Conservation, Air Quality 2.11.2022.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Fiscal Note Department of Enviromental Conservation, Spill Prevention and Response 2.11.2022.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Fiscal Note Department of Enviromental Conservation, Water 2.11.2022.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Presentation from Dr. Birnbaum 02.16.22.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121
SB 121 Written Testimony 2.16.2022.pdf SRES 2/16/2022 3:30:00 PM
SB 121